What coolant do you use?

[bhayden10]

Good Morning all.

We have been using Castrol Clearedge vs6502 coolant for a couple years. (500.00 for 55 gal but going up) It was half the cost of Trim sol that we previously used. No major problems with it other than it doesn't like tapping stainless on the lathes. Our supplier just lost the contract to sell it so I was curious what others use since we may be looking for something different. Thanks in advance for your input.

[Tim Simmermon]

We use Blaser here. Haven't had any issues with machining and it takes a long time for it to go rancid. We switched over from Trim Sol and i have never looked back.

[Ed@Elite]

We use Blaser here too. Absolutely love it!! We used Cimcool before. The Cimcool left a sticky residue on our tools/machines. The Blaser leaves an oil like coating that wipes off VERY easily and keeps stuff from rusting.

 

Have a Blaser Rep come out and talk to you. You probably never knew the "ART" to keeping a coolant lasting a long time and actually how it works. Pretty interesting.

[Chip-pan]

For all the ones using the Blaser, What about the minerial oil smell? I didnt think it was that bad, but all my co workers did.

On a second note, Blaser is a lot easier on you hands. No more skin problems.

 

Chip-pan

[Storkman]

Blaser

[chris m]

Valcool VNT800

[Randy Morton @ Clem Industrial]

Trim-Sol. Best of the best, so I have been told. Even the distributor for Valcool (which is what we used to use...hated that sticky feeling and always oily) told me that Valcool is crap and Trim-Sol is the best on the market.

 

Trim-Sol also had no strong odor of any type and never leaves a sticky goo on the machine after a day or two or three...and no oily feeling to the touch.

[jrykrl]

Blaser is the best IMHO

Jer

[J Coulston]

Blaser

[spade117]

Trim-sol here. Works pretty well if you keep all the ph levels good.

[kinglouie V]

Trim-sol is pretty good, otherwise it wouldn't have been around so long. Blaser 2000 is unbeatable for it's lubricity, however expect to add water to it once in a while, barring any advancement in chemistry.

 

read what SME says about Blaser 2000

 

yes, Society of Manufacturing Engineers

[Guest]

Blaso-cut

[bhayden10]

Thanks for all the replies, were checking into blaser now.

[Jeff the haas_guy]

Blaser

 

and the sweet smell when you first add it is a bonus

[Ed@Elite]

I agree. I personally love the smell, and like someone else said, its easy on the skin. It also has a ZERO health rating, and that is too Swiss standards which are tougher than US standards.

 

It is initially pretty expensive. About $800 for a 55gal drum (It depends on which coolant you choose to fit your application) plus you have to buy the Jet Mixer, which precisely mixes the coolant and water which is about $1000.

 

Whats also nice about Blaser, others may do this as well, is that if you buy a new machine, they will fill the coolant for FREE!!

[Guest]

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plus you have to buy the Jet Mixer, which precisely mixes the coolant and water which is about $1000.

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Bull, don't let tham sell that to you, unless of course you want it. You can buy a regular mixer for less than half that and it works fine. Doing it for over 3 years.

[Nick_AFRL]

we run Valcool.... but the water around here is nasty so if you dont change it every couple months it get nasty....

[Ed@Elite]

Sorry, I should have refraised that, you don't have to buy the Jet mixer, we did.

[Guest]

All Blaser here. We usually spring the xtra couple of bucks for the 4000 strong. Anyone using the Blaser way oil? I'm thinking of switching over to it, supposedly sulpher free and very "sump friendly", and easy skimming.

 

A pissing match just started on another forum about synthetic vs. mineral.

[Jeff the haas_guy]

I have not changed my coolant in 2 1/2 years. I wait till coolant is real low, blowing bubbles, and completly fill the tank mixing in the coolant. I have never premixed the coolant. If I ned to, I never knew about it.No stinky smell at all from my machines.

[Bob_Looney]

3 years on Trim going on 4. I never replace it, just add new mix. I fill a 5 gal bucket w/ water, dump in some coolant, mix it up, and away I go.

Went from Blazer to Hangsterfers to Trim.

[KMaynard]

Blaser

 

Smell? Dunno guess I don't notice any smell at all anymore...people coming in smell the coolant and I look at them like their nuts ..

[MIL-TFP-41]

I can't believe how many people like Blazer....we used it for 4 or so years. Thing I noticed about it was an incredible amout of buildup on the enclosure of the machines...it would stick then dry then in a few months it was like 1/4" think in the tough to clean corners of the machine. Then it started to get into the toolchangers & gummed those up. It also stuck to chips like crazy & made chip disposal more like coolant disposal. We used refractometers & kept the mixture no more than 7~8%, so I don't think it was too thick. We skimmed the tanks of way lube (still do) once a week & kept good care of it...but eventually it would wind up seperating on us.

 

Finally we tried a brand call Ho-Cut...

http://www.houghtonintl.com/content/view/176/930/

Much less $$$ than Blazer & it does not go bad...some machines have been running it for more than 3 years without changing & they still don't smell like an outhouse in August...bout all we do is skim the tanks once a week & thats it.

[?Mark]

DuBois Lubricoolant 2050 ac.

Going 8 years now with no problems. You get what you pay for...

[Guest]

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Much less $$$ than Blazer & it does not go bad...some machines have been running it for more than 3 years without changing & they still don't smell like an outhouse in August...bout all we do is skim the tanks once a week & thats it.

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I wouldn't stick my hands in anything that's been in a tank that long. You're not telling me there is not build of bacteriain there, won't buy it for a second.

 

As far as Blaser cauing problems, well when you put something in a machine for 3 years and don't do much with it, I can understand why you h ad problems. You do have to maintain your mixture to the correct dilution rate and it will not gunk up on you. If you premix it, it will not gunk up on you.

 

I'd be curious to see the lubricity of 3 year old coolant in some of the aggressive cuts I take, if your coolant starts to steam, you gonna have problems with tool life for sure.