EDITING COMMON PARAMETERS???

[Thee Dragracer1951]

Ok...I REALLY like Mastercam but this is just over the freeking top.

I have a job where I have a couple hundred ops.

Runs in five setups.

I'm going to run this on two different machines.

Two different posts and machine def's.

When I change defs, it turns off my stinkin coolant. It ALSO turns the coolant off in the tool def!!!!!

No prob. I'll just edit the thirty some odd tools and save them to a liberary. Edit common parameters dosn't change the stinkin coolent!!!!!

So I get to edit each tool and each FOOKIN toolpath each stinkin time I change a machine def!!!@!

 

JEEEZUS Some one show me the light!!!!

[iowajim62]

X Demo only here but couldn't you have 2 Machines in your File and just copy the ops over to the 2nd def and post it ???

[Snehal Shah]

You could set default parameters for your operations in the control definition.

 

In MCX2 go to Settings - Control Definition Manager. Once the Control Defintion Manager dialog appears search for "Operation Defaults".

 

You could change paramters in there, and "save as defaults" once done.

 

Everytime you load a control definition your defaults will appear.

[Thee Dragracer1951]

I suppose I could have. But that renumbers my tools!!!

And I STILL have to turn onthe coolant on every stinkin op again.

[Thee Dragracer1951]

You guys are not understanding me

My defaults are fine.

If I create another machine group and call another machine def, copy all my ops to the new machine group, it turns off all of the colant in the ops AND in the tool defs. It ALSO alters the tool numbers

You CAN NOT edit common parameters to fix it. It dosn't change the coolant on or off issue.

I have to change a couple HUNDRED ops by hand.

AND I have to edit the tool defs as well because it turns the coolant off there as well as change the tool and offset numbers. This REALLY sucks.

[gcode]

Does one of you machines use old sytle V9 coolant

and the other X style coolant??

I've had this cause all kinds of headaches

when changing machines or posts

[Thee Dragracer1951]

You know...it does.

What's the cure?

[gcode]

make the coolant style on both the same

old style or new doesn't matter, just the same

both old is probably easier

[Thee Dragracer1951]

OK, but how do I do that?

And Why oh Why dosnt edit common parameters work?

[gcode]

Go to the Coolant page of General Machine Parameters in your Machine Definition.

Check the box

"Support coolant using coolant value in post-proccessor"

 

That will turn X style coolant into V9 style.

I have no idea why edit general parameters

won't work for you. I use it to mass edit coolant settings all the time.

I'm wondering if one of your posts has had major

customization work done to the coolant commands.

[Thee Dragracer1951]

quote:

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I'm wondering if one of your posts has had major

customization work done to the coolant commands.

 

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Not that I'm aware of. I have a post for my Haas Mini that I have had (been upgrading it) since ver 8 or 9. and the MP Master post for my Fanucs

The Haas post has coolant either on or off.

The other mill post has on, off, ignore , before, with, and after switches.

[crazy^millman]

I think there is part of your problem. You have taken a post all the way from V8 to X not the way to go IMHO. There is a HASS post in X and you could always change the MPMASTER to suit your needs keeping both posts of the same style making life easier for yourself down the road. I have to strongly agree with Gcode about old style and new style posts given you a big part of your problems.

 

HTH

[cadcam]

The easist way to of handled this would of post the the first machine and not create another but after posting the first one gone to files in the OM and changed machines and posted insteatd of copying to just post to to diffrent machines and it would of retained the info.

M2C

[Thee Dragracer1951]

Jay

That's what I did the first time around. Posted the file then went back to the ops mgr and changed the machine def. That turned off all the coolant settings in every op. also in the tool def. When I went to use edit common para's, it only worked for one op. select all of them and still only worked on one op. I am sure this is something I am doing wrong, I just haven't figured out what the heck it is yet.

I have another thing that is a little strange. When I post, many times I just post a couple ops at a time. I have the "overwrite" or "ask" click box set to overwrite. Yet it randomly returns to ask....

[Rick Henrickson 65]

do your tools have the coolant active?

you could say use tools step peck and coolant.

[Thee Dragracer1951]

I "MAY" have cured this.

 

In the general machine parameters page I have removed the "Mist" and "Through Tool" options. That will make the coolant issues go away. Testing now.

[Thee Dragracer1951]

Hmmmm

That didn't work.

[doyleg]

I'm with Rick

 

do your tools have the coolant active?

you could say use tools step peck and coolant

[Thee Dragracer1951]

Rick just emailed me and said the same thing. I've heard people talk about step, peck and coolant. Where do I change it at????????

[Colin Gilchrist]

Jim,

 

The setting is under the Machine Group Properties (MGP), Tool Settings tab. There is a check box for "use tool's step, peck, coolant".

 

If you want to force this option to "on" as the default do the following:

 

Open the MGP dialog box, select the "Files" tab.

 

In the "Operation Defaults" section, click on the exclamation point button (edit item button).

 

This will bring up the "Edit Operation Defaults" dialog box. Use the scroll bar on the right to scroll to the top of the operation list.

 

At the top of the list is another "Properties" tree with the defaults for all of your MGP settings.

 

Open this second default MGP dialog box and make sure the check box is checked. If the dialog opens and the box is already checked, uncheck and then re-check the box. You need Mastercam to register this as the "default" setting.

 

Now click the "OK" green check mark button, click the "OK" button to close the "Op defaults" dialog box, and click "OK" to close the original MGP dialog box.

 

You will need to repeat this procedure for each different Machine definition you have.

 

HTH,

[Thee Dragracer1951]

Thank you Colin

I must be REALLY thick. But, I can't find anything called the Machine Group Properties...

I've been in the machine def mgr. Then into the General Machine Parameters. Nothing there remotely like that.

 

 

Hold on....

I've found it.

We'll see if that does it.

Thanks Gents.

[Rick Henrickson 65]

Jim it is in your op manager

make a machine group

click on the plus sign on the properties tab

then click on the tool settings tab

then upper right of that page

toolpath configuration

check the use tools step peck coolant button

[Colin Gilchrist]

Jim,

 

When you load a Machine Definition into the operation manager, there is plus sign next to the Machine Group. Underneath the Machine Group should be "properties" and a "toolpath group". The "properties" section is the "machine group properties".

 

HTH,

[Thee Dragracer1951]

I got it now....

Dont take ME very long